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877-225-8587. remember, we will never be the fake news destroy-trump-media. we are fair and balanced. letou not your heart be trouble. the news continues. i'm giving you five extra seconds, laura ingraham! hotline identifier at the bottom was nancy from georgia. i thought i had a low voice. nancy? first of all, all those calls, hannity, sound like they are coming in from the states that have legalized marijuana. they are all toking up before they call. in i'm telling you. >> sean: cnn is lighting their bongs, exactly. >> laura: yeah. exactly. probably cnn calling in. >> sean: that's probably true. jeff zucker. bi, a lot of news coming. have a good show. >> laura: welcome everybody to the ingraham angle live from washington. trump versus the smart set. that's the focus of tonight's angle.
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media drum beat continued today and in to the tonight about the salacious tidbits tell all by michael wolff. one the most of it repeated is that president trump is not smart, he doesn't read, is he not curious. is he a village idiot type. according to wolf's book and many of this has been push back on by the way former deputy chief of staff katie walsh thought the white house was incompetently run. treasury secretary steve mnuchin and former chief of staff reince priebus believe trump to be an idiot. gary cohn the president's top economic advisor regards trump as, quote, dumb and the president's top national security advisor h.r. mcmaster considers him, according to this book to be quote a dope. well, of course all of this thrilled the lefty cable nitwits and bitter never trumpers. >> some of the more salacious entries, the fact
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that donald trump doesn't read. well, you know, we told you that a year and a half ago. the assessment is all consistent of the closest to the president working with him as being essentially a child. >> he is a child. he has got no attention span. he reads nothing. >> it's even worse than it seems. this is an idiot surrounded by clowns. >> the behavior, the disposition of the president. they say he is acting like a child. >> the horrible choice you have to make is do i stay here and work with this child who behaves like an arrogant fool, behaves like a baby. >> laura: pot, kettle, black, joe. well, of course, they are all enjoying this moment where team trump seems to be piling on the president because they all think it validates their own views that donald trump is just a interesting to diet who lucked out by winning the presidency and by the way he eats a lot of bad food. okay, i'm going to hand it to them. i think they are right about
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this, trump isn't to artisanal cheeses and doesn't munch down on kale and fancy water. goofy. do these perpetual grouses realize when you are call him imbissell you are saying the same of his supporters? i'm not a political absolute sayer that's not a strategy for expanding your own movement. i still remember what the intellectuals of the late 1970s and 1980s frequently said about my old boss ronald reagan. remember, he was unintelligent. he slept in the afternoons. he went to a second rate college. just an actor, shallow. well, look, trump isn't reagan. no one ever will be. reagan was a man for his own time. he was the former two term governor of california who wrote and thought a lot about conservatism. but, like reagan, trump is extremely sharp and he has the pulse of the people. and i know because i have
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seen it. he has uncanny ability to connect with their hopes and their desires. and like reagan, he reminds americans that what makes us special is our people. it's our freedom. it's not our government. and as for the so-called smart educated people who are now criticizing trump, i have a few questions. was it smart to enact policies that ended up enriching the repressive regime in china at the expense of american workers, american companies and american security? and was it smart to leave our borders open like swiss cheese allowing illegals to stream into the united states, taking american jobs, sad ling taxpayers with the cost of educating them, housing them, providing them with healthcare? was it smart to get into some wars that ended up draining our country of trillions of dollars, took the lives of so many of our finest men and women? was it smart to explode our foreign population not through a smart merit based immigration system but through the ludicrous policy
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of chain migration? was it smart to borrow trillions from other countries only to send hundreds of billions to countries who hate us? is it smart to create a government mandated healthcare system that drove so many doctors out of their practices, jacked up premiums and out of pocket costs and led to cancelled policies? i don't think so. trump friend and political operative roger stone put it this way on my radio show today. >> donald trump is his own chief strategist. he is also his own speech writer, his own phrase maker, his own press secretary in many senses. and he is obviously very good at it. yes, donald trump is an eccentric. yes, he does things his way. yes, he is not like every other president that you can think of who was packaged, who was fabricated, who was being handed, you know,
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polling and focus groups and discussions of how to say things that would make you popular against enormous odds by taking on the two-party duopoly the elites of both parties who have, let's face it, run the country into the ground. is he a genius. >> laura: maybe he doesn't pull over the latest biography or have plato's book on his table big deal. he had great school. he never pretended to be a great academic. not many people are. what did he do? he exposed and named the pretenders, those elites in politics, media and business who helped drive america in to a ditch no matter how badly their policies and ideas failed the people. those fraudsters are almost never held accountable. tired of seeing america lose, trump revealed their agendas, he named them, and he made us see them to be
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the fraud that they are. and by the way, they have been vengeful ever since furious? what's the point of being smart if you never learn. trump somebody someone needed to step up to be the voice of forgotten men and women. he beat all those campaigners with their focus group talking points and slick ad campaigns. it's smart to put americans and their interests first. donald trump is still out there listening to the people who count, you. >> i was in new york at a big event recently, and i take a lot of pictures with police and with firemen and with the military and one of the policemen came up, an officer and he said sir, i want to thank you, my 401(k) is through the roof. my wife thinks i'm a brilliant investor. i have never seen anything like this. my wife is so happy. my family is so happy.
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>> laura: dumb? i don't think so. he is telling the stories that people want to hear. personalizing, sterile statistics, charts and graphs. real antidotes and though, you know, i have got to say thinking about dumb, i would feel pretty dumb if i had been one of those g.o.p. donors snickered into writing a million-dollar check into jeb bush's super pac. put down a payment on a house in georgetown because i was sure hillary clinton would win and i would be working in her administration there is a brilliance in trump's political strategy. perhaps its greatest instinct was a simple message that resonated most with his core supporters. build the wall that promise was sacrosanct and helped him get elected. the best thing trump can do is stick to his core campaign promises, especially that one. he is not going to fall, i don't think, for what the failed elites might be trying to sell him. they may have more political experience and a lot of them do, but he has better
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instincts than most of them and most americans will see that his thinking is exactly the type of unconventional thinking that at times is disruptive that we need right now. and that's the angle. joining me now for reaction is newt gingrich, former speaker of the house and a fox news contributor. newt, it's so good to have you back from rome. how are you? are you perpetually jet lagd? that's my question to you. >> no, no. it's fun. >> laura: let's talk about what they are trying to do, the usual suspect, you know all of them. you saw that tedious montage. trump is not smart. he is dumb. he doesn't read. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. what's going on here? >> i mean the same people who have been passionately avoiding reality for three years are now entering a new year passionately avoiding reality. you know, there is a whole series of these things where i'm working on a book right now called "trump's america." there is a whole chapter of how wrong they are. whether it's somebody saying he couldn't possibly be
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elected, a number of people who said the stock market is going to crash the minute is he sworn. in you go back and you pick these people up. i have a standard rule. if i look at the sunday morning shows and all of the wonderful elite washington figures have agreeed that the sky is going to be blue. my assumption immediately is it's not because they are wrong so often. let's take a case of the current. there
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thought. someone once said to me tiger woods caddie actually
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thought he made the putts and forgot that in fact it was helpful to have tiger woods. >> laura: as long as he didn't drive the car in alaska. the problem tiger had. >> if you think about it bannon thought that he had the skills that trump has. >> laura: he might run for president. reports that he could be running for president. >> he will get 3%. and be part of the continuation. i think actually this experience probably eliminates most of his support financially. >> laura: john cornyn senator for texas said the falling out for bannon may be a good thing for the republican party. what i'm worried is the ricochet thing. bannon is a conservative populist. i agree with him on almost every issue. is he smart. is he a student of history. your honor what's behind these quotes. i'm not going to get into that i don't want trump to take the bannon problem and take the lesson from that being i'm not going to do these issues that, you know that we agreed on together. i think they are -- they were good together. i'm not saying bannon was trump. trump, trump. they were good together.
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>> first of all i think steve miller. >> laura: i'm trying to mend fences for people. >> good luck. >> laura: well, what can i do? i'm trying. >> first of all, steven miller is the heart of. >> laura: love him. >> right. and he has all of bannon's upside and none of his downside. >> laura: quiet. >> he is there doing his job every single day. i have think he probably channels trump better than anybody in the country. second, i actually have -- this is like reagan. i remember as early as the summer of '82 conservatives going to lunch and heritage going oh my god reagan is selling us out. i have enormous faith reagan is reagan and trump is trump. he believes in this stuff. he believes in deregulation and cutting taxes. i don't worry about bannon leaving as long as trump stays. >> laura: sessions a couple congressman, meadows and jordan says sessions should probably step aside.
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might be time for him to step aside. what do you think about that? >> i think the attorney general sessions ought to have a very serious review of what he is doing. he has a department that has enormous problems. he can't recuse himself from all those problems and he ought to be -- if he were still in the senate, he would be really angry at him as attorney general. and i like jeff a lot. and. >> laura: me too. >> i hope he will decide that he is going to clean house and get the job done. >> laura: they are opening up a couple new investigations. we will see. newt gingrich love having you on. give my best to your -- do you call her ambassador or ambassadorress. >> she prefers you call her calista. >> laura: tell her i said hi. the sudden feud between bannon and the president we just talked about took another surprising turn today. we will talk to someone who has not spoken out on this
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campaign, "new york times" best selling co-author of let trump be trump congratulations to dave bossie. great to see you. how are you doing, man. >> i'm great. thank you for having me. >> laura: you are not in the white house. >> i am happy that our book is doing well. >> laura: so happy for you. let's talk about what's going on here the left is treating this like manna from heaven. book is now out tomorrow. they have set up the publication. this is like a pr -- this is a pr dream for every writer. the white house -- book shouldn't come out. threatening to sue. what's happened? >> this book seems to be national enquirer on steroids. >> laura: none of it is true. >> it's sensational journalism. it's not journalism. i'm concerned about what is true and what isn't true. this author has a history of
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taking liberties with things. i'm deeply concerned about what my friend steve bannon has said to this person. >> laura: he wasn't even at the campaign when this meeting took place. >> and the thing that meeting unpatriotic, fairly standard meeting anybody who is involved in a campaign. >> laura: treasonous has legal prerequisite. >> don jr. is a very patriotic man. i have spent a lot of time with him. he is the furthest thing from that. i take great umbrage. >> laura: he has not denied the comments but he also today said that like nothing is going to come between the trump agenda and me or breitbart setting him aside though, why would the white house think it was a good idea to allow michael wolff to park himself in the west wing lobby many times so
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forth. waiting for interviews. and then basically he was given cart blanche to talk to top aides. i know that because they have told me that. they were told by one individual who was, i guess, speaking for the president, talked to x,y, z and all tiewx. he has tapes. >> laura: the president said he had tapes too. that just came to mind. >> wolf is somebody who did have access. >> laura: why think michael wolff is going to do anything to help the trump agenda or frankly be fair. >> he was never going to be. >> laura: i don't know why they did that? >> it's one of the biggest mistakes. now we are off the agenda. we are not talking about the successful tax reform. >> laura: we next segment. >> i hope so. the president just has the momentum coming out of his tax reform package and the great bill and the economy is steaming along and then we get.
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>> laura: steve bannon lost his mind. look steve has his own views. i did the whole ingraham angle about the smarts of donald trump how he outfoxed everyone. great political instincts. >> best political instincts i have ever seen. >> laura: don't keep the news cycle going on a topic that's not helping you. i get it you want to defend yourself, i understand that. i get that. >> he is the best counter puncher we have ever seen. >> laura: also don't punch down. >> you don't. but when this book, these people, the mainstream media want to use everything at their disposal, the other cable networks are just salivating over it. >> laura: they are just selling more books now. >> that's all they are doing. that's what the game is about. make no about it. it's to fill michael wolff's pockets. >> laura: i didn't speak to michael wolff. i didn't speak to him. you didn't see a quote from me there. i don't talk to those people. >> i didn't see the book yet. >> laura: i know i'm not quoted. let's talk about the elite's criticism of donald trump as
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disengaged as uninformed as now they are making the argument that he could have neurological problems. these articles are actually not appearing just in left-wing web sites either. >> but it's a joke. the president is incredibly well-educated, well-read and very smart guy. you don't get to be president of the united states if you are not. >> laura: dave bossie, congratulations on the book. so proud of you. it was a page turner. i gave a couple copies for christmas by the way. i still got to get to you sign them. thanks so much. and,. >> they are the dreamers. this must be done now. there is an urgent need. >> obama couldn't do it. bush couldn't do it. i think you can do it. there is a deal to be had. you want it bad enough, we will get it. >> we need a physical border wall. we are going to have a wall, remember that. we are going to have a wall.
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>> laura: as can you here jousting continues over creating a daca compromise. the president is determined to have a border wall and real enforcement. to give you a sense of what's at stake in the high cost of illegal immigration let's go to don rosenberg in call bass is a, california. his son drew was killed in a 2010 car crash by an illegal immigrant. he entered the country illegally. he was from honduras and ultimately given legal status because of that hurricane. when he came in, he came in illegally. now you don't have your son. don, it's always good to see you. but my heart always breaks for you anew every time i do see you because i know when you start hearing republicans obsess over amnesty for 800,000 people brought here when they were young, it's got to just wear on you. >> well, laura, thanks for having me. it certainly does. it's hard to believe that
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americans are willing to sacrifice other americans both jobs, lives, in deference to people ha are in the country illegally. and certainly it's all the democrats and now got a lot of republicans coming on board, too. it's absolutely outrageous and the public shouldn't stand for it. >> laura: you know, when i speak with families who have been so brutally affected by the scourge of illegal immigration, they have repeatedly said from california to nevada to texas, no one even bothered to ask us questions before donald trump. they didn't talk to us. they didn't sit down with us. they didn't give us a hug. didn't hear from president obama. didn't hear from george w. bush. trump was it for them. finally they had a voice. >> well, yeah. you couldn't be more accurate than that. i can tell from you so many of the people that i'm now friends with, because we
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have lost somebody, you know, back in the obama days we wrote to him. i wrote to him twice. i had the letter delivered by someone in jeh johnson's staff, never even a condolence response back. i have written to many senators and congressman, no response think just ignore us. same with the media. "new york times," chicago tribune. any of the tribune publications. they will run story after story. heart breaking story that some illegal alien being deported and all they did was embezzling money and then somebody gets killed. you will find it nowhere in the paper. >> laura: i call those immigration sob stories. i do them regularly on the radio. every illegal immigrant is a valedictorian or has rescued a cat from a tree. there is never an illegal imin most of these news accounts that's ever so much as jay walked. okay. so your stories, you know,
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the robberies, you know, and so when donald trump originally made that point, you know, talked about rape and so forth, they didn't like the way he phrased it but what he was getting at is, you are not receiving the full story on this. i'm going to tell the story of those men and women and their families who have been so horrifically affected because these politicians haven't done their job. and i got to say, republicans, democrats watching this, your solemn duty is to the american people. the american people. not to the people of other countries who came here illegally but to legal immigrants and to american citizens. donald trump understands that i don't think he is going to -- you know, sell out people on immigration. if he does, he is over anyway. he is going to be done. if he sells us out on immigration, donald trump will not be reelected president of the united states. i can tell you that right now. i am talking as someone who is a great supporter of his. >> the problem is that the public doesn't really know
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what's going on because they are not being told. kate stein solid killed and half the country thinks she is the first person ever killed by illegal i will alien and the other half of the country never heard of her. the reality is we are talking over 50,000 deaths sips the last immigration reform and now they want to do the same thing. >> laura: no, no, no. it can't be the promise of enforcement and immediate amnesty. it never works. it didn't work before and won't work now. by the way you don't want to miss this next segment. a little notice story that could turn into huge news. and what fox news can now confirm about the reopening of, you got it, the hillary clinton email investigation next. ♪ ♪ the great emperor penguin migration. trekking a hundred miles inland to their breeding grounds. except for these two fellows. this time next year, we're gonna be sitting on an egg. i think we're getting close! make a u-turn...
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>> laura: breaking news for you tonight. fox news can now confirm that justice department is taking another look at
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hillary clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state. investigators are examining how classified material ended up on her unsecured server. how much was sent, who sent it, and which of the original federal investigators knew about all of this. fox can also confirm that the justice department is also investigating whether the clinton foundation engaged in any pay-to-play scheme while hillary was secretary of state. two big developments. let's discuss all of this with peter schweizer, who is author of the "new york times" best seller "clinton cash" who is in tallahassee, florida. here with me in studio is philip reince former deputy assistant secretary of state to hillary clinton. it's great to see both of you. philip, let's start with you. the justice department and the fbi are taking another look, no matter how you phrase it. it looks like they are investigating this anew. what's your take. first start with the email server. >> listening to that it's
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amazing that the department of justice has any time to do anything else. i would say two things. first, i think there's a problem with the department justice and the fbi looking at something over and over again because there are people who don't like the outcome. this has been investigated and concluded. but i will say, this rather than fight it. have at it. if they want to look at it, we have nothing to fear. people who ho are innocent don't fire the fbi director. the second thing i would add if they are going to do this, expand it. it's been 6 to 9 years. let's see what's happened since. let's see about email practice and the system. there are people now, we have jared and ivanka who were caught using private email last year in the white house. i haven't heard anything about that. let's put them on that, too. let's have rudy giuliani and the new york field office. let's take a look at that. >> laura: you are a really smart guy. >> thank you. >> laura: i bet you didn't send email mail to a yahoo
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account or did you? did you ever send emails to another account that included any confidential or classified information like huma abedin did? did you ever do that? >> not to personal account but it's funny you ask. this is an email that i sent that has been classified. it's been redacted so i'm not holding anything. this is an email that i sent to the secretary who doesn't reply. i don't say anything. but take a look at where it comes from. this has one of the most senior members of the white house as part of the sending group. why aren't we looking at this? we should be. because this is a systemic problem. this is on the internet. this was foiaed by judicial watch. >> laura: so your view is that there was deletion of emails, none of that at the department of state, when she was there, none of that was in any way problematic? i mean comey thought it was problematic. >> she has said it was dumb. >> laura: comey originally
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said it was -- >> -- i think prejudging it. i think you say he watered it down. >> laura: let's go to peter schweizer who wrote a book. you heard what philip said about this, if you want to do it, broaden the investigation into general email practices and then we will talk about the clinton foundation. >> yeah, no. i mean i think that's a good idea. i think there is a fundamental difference. there's a difference when collin paul as secretary of state was using an aol account occasionally for correspondence and setting up your own private server. why do you sit up a private server? if you have the aol account you can delete it on your laptop. it's on a server back at aol. the reason you set up a server, i believe the reason the clintons did is precisely because of what they did. they deleted 33,000 emails and turned only 30,000 over to the state department. the state department concluded not all those were
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personal emails. they deleted business related as well. i appreciate the spirit in which he is saying broaden the investigation. i would agree with that i do think there is a fundamental difference between having a server and private email account and just having private email account. >> we don't know that jared and ivanka trump don't have a server in their apartment. >> i agree. >> i think they can afford it. >> laura: i'm sure they would be happy to answer that question. let's move onto the clinton foundation. now it looks like that's going to be examined again. and we know for a fact that people who are donors to the clinton foundation did seek to get access to mrs. clinton and in some cases did get access to mrs. clinton. just the appearance of that, i mean, are you a lawyer? >> no i'm not. >> laura: the mere appearance of that is not good. having people who work both for the foundation and their consulting to their state department at the same time while they are trying to shepard people through to meetings with mrs. clinton.
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setting aside politics and all of that. appearance issues plague all politicians. but that one opens up so many questions and always did. >> it was a tough situation. you had never had a former president with a significant foundation doing good around the world married to a secretary of state. >> laura: why does the whole thing dry up after she doesn't become president? why. >> i don't think that's true. a lot of accusations made against the clinton foundation including mr. schweizer in clinton cash have been proven wrong. his -- in fact, ironically, he sat on this set with chris wallace when he wrote the book and chris, i brought it because it's unbelievable, chris wrote that clinton took no direction action was involved in any way in proving nine agencies of the company. peter had to admit he overreached when secretary clinton vetoed it. it's a 9 person agency it's
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not her decision. >> laura: why would if you are involved in giving money to the clinton foundation that's great. that doesn't look good. why would millions of dollars. >> because when you. >> laura: be funneled to the clinton foundation when there were pending matters before the state department and important matters with the government? we can go through all of them. they are well-known. why would they do that? why? >> well, i think a couple things. first of all nothing was funneled. things were donated and made public. they made every penny public. >> laura: peter has to respond to what you just said about the book. go ahead what philippe had charged. >> it's not true with all due respect. $2.35 million donation from the chairman of uranium one as the deal was being approved was not disclosed by the clinton foundation. and the clinton foundation had to admit that even though you signed an agreement with president obama saying you were going to disclose every penny. and, you know, call me unfair but i don't know how you misplace a 2.35-million-dollar donation
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from the chairman of the uranium company has approval sale to russia is being approved at that very time. >> you wrote secretary clinton had veto power over the deal and you had to take that back. >> no i did not. read the book. >> you said the state department overreached. >> no, i did not. what i said in the book was that there were nine government agencies that approved the deal. if any of those agencies, including the state department don't agree with the deal, the deal gets halted and kicked up to the president for review. and by the way three -- go ahead. >> laura: the committee on foreign -- we can't relitigate that this is going to be going on for some time. i want to have you great back. great to have you on felipe. i botched your name three times. >> it happens all the time. >> laura: in a moment, we will tell you what the attorney general did today that could signal the beginning of the end? oh, for legal marijuana, that's wishful thinking. don't go away ♪
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>> laura: attorney general jeff sessions has set the staining for what could turn into a crackdown on legalized marijuana. he issued a memo today reversing several obama era directives that discourage enforcement of antimarijuana laws in states that legalize its use and possession. joining me now to debate all of this is attorney john palkot. chairman of smart approach to main along with don murphy of the main policy project. cory gardner in colorado, senator, said that a.g. jeff sessions' decision to rescind marijuana policy has trampled on the will of the colorado voters. wow. john palkot, what do you think about that republican cory gardner? they got a lot of tax money from the legalize marijuana? >> i was very sorry to hear about cory gardner taking that position. i think he has said even worse than that he said he
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is not going to support any personal that's been appointed by, you know, attorney general sessions in the next few months until this is all straightened out. i think he is actually, you know, making more of a big deal of this than he should. because ultimately, we're just going back to enforcing a law like it used to be enforced. >> laura: the current federal law. >> and the current federal law prohibits the use, distribution, you know, sale of marijuana. and he is making it almost like a states right issue when it's actually a public health issue. if you look at all of the various things that marijuana has been doing to his state, i'm actually kind of surprised that he would be taking that position. i mean, we have seen a doubling in the number of people who have been killed in drug driving accidents. we have seen, you know, emergency rooms overwhelmed by people reporting that they are suffering from psychosis. we have seen skyrocketing youth use. we have seen pot shops being put in all the minority areas. >> laura: don, you are an advocate the legalized
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marijuana. billions of dollars are on the line. big celebrity money. big weed money. this is initiative that is being pushed and pushed and pushed i think without regard to public health. but, on the issue of state vs. federal authority here, it is currently federal law, as john said, to prohibit recreational use of marijuana, possession, or distribution. if you want to change the law, change the law. so demonizing jeff sessions as some of these people are doing today, these growers they want to make money off the destruction of our development of young brains and so forth i guess they can do that. but federal law right now until they change it? >> jeff sessions is doing what jeff sessions is supposed to do. he is the attorney general and he is supposed to prosecute these sort of things. is he supposed to say he is going to enforce federal law. that's what loretta lynch said in her confirmation hearings and that's what jeff sessions said in his. whether you want to talk about billions of dollars, public health, or anything else, i think this is a constitutional amendment. it's a 10th amendment issue. with respect to health issues, i think more and
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more people are finding that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol. and whether or not you want to debate that that's a whole different topic. i actually think that the states are capable of enforcing their own law. in what realm. >> laura: averting federal law right now. >> in what realm is federal law. >> laura: what other laws should be nilly nilly ignored. >> i think the states are capable of handling their own state laws and voters have passed these laws and the legislatures have passed these laws. i don't think the trump administration should get in the middle of this. this is not necessarily about billions of dollars. in my opinion it's about very sick people who by his own admission, the president has said he knows people who use marijuana. and he. >> laura: people like people who are starting on marijuana and moving to other drugs? 9% are addicted. 9% end up getting addicted. that's the american academy of pediatrician. >> start off with opioids and heroin because they get a prescription.
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>> vast majority of people who get addicted with opioids started off with pot. let's be clear. secondly let's make it clear. you are from the marijuana policy project. you get paid to be here. i'm here smart approach to marijuana. we are trying to come up with a middle road. we north talking prohibition vs. legalization. we are talking about decriminalization and trying to deal with some of the problems that have been identified while also. >> can you look at him when he is talking. >> drug policy issues. some which are legitimate you guys raise. when it comes right down to it, there is a bad day for the marijuana policy project for one simple reason. most of the board has invested in the marijuana industry. all those people are trying to make a ton of money off of our kids. getting them addicted. >> i actually thought we would be here to talk about the issue and not personal attacks. >> that's not a personal attack. >> i'm a little disappointed in that. >> laura: wrap it up. >> very sick people benefiting from this and i don't think the president should be -- >> laura: we have you back for sure. great debate. by the way, up next, something bizarre. you are not going to want to
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miss it. bomb cyclones, reptiles?
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♪ >> laura: and now let's go to our own ingraham angle doppler radar that tracks weather hyperbole and oddities. as you know it's cold here on the east coast. believe it or not, and it's winter time and it's cold in most of the united states. shocking. and the effects of the dreaded bomb cyclone have reached even the reptile set in florida. when temps dip to below 40 degrees in the sunshine state today, something odd started happening. iguanas started dropping from trees. yum. a frozen treat for the good humor man. imagine that. the fate of this cute green fellow was chronicled today
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by the associated press but, look, before you weep over his limp leathery figure you should know just because they go belly up those little green guys are not necessarily dead they are just chilling. so bad. literally. iguanas are one thing but what about those pesky, invasive species of burmese pythons that now populate the florida everglades? sorry, kids. snake haters, well, even the current cold snap will not send their slithery ranks. they survive. and by the way i was reminded of this because my son held a python in florida last week at a reptile show and i almost had a heart attack. i almost melted down when i saw him. he is the one in the orange. yeah, he thought it was cool and he demanded to hold the alligator at the exhibit as well niko. he is not afraid of anything. i had to run. by the way, we'll be right back with some breaking reaction from the president on michael wolff's book
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>> laura: before we go, the president reacting minutes ago to the latest revelations from michael wolfe's book. specifically what we talked about a few minutes ago. the idea that wolff had unfettered access to the president's staff trump tweetin tweeting: "i authorized zero access to white house actually turned him down many times for author of phony book! i never spoke to him for book. full of lies, misrepresentations and sources that don't exist. look at this guy's past and watch what happens to him and sloppy steve!" well, let me say, according to multiple reports and wolff himself, he sat on the west wing on that couch as people walked back and forth and was given access as has been reported by i
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think hope hicks. she said "green light for various people at the white house to speak with him," announced the information we have. the president did not give him an interview, that's correct. but he did have access to the white house. we will see as this develops and we will be with you every step of the way to analyze. follow me on twitter and facebook. check out "billionaires at the barricades." >> shannon: here's a way of coming up tonight. threats of legal action, publishers rush to release michael's explosive book about the trump white house. >> this is a mistake after mistake after mistake. >> shannon: sean spicer to other formal officials, people raising questions about its credibility. >> looks like is not enough basis to appoint a special counsel. >> shannon: tensions between jeff sessions and some house republicans reaching a boiling


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